Comments on: How to ruin your electric wall oven for under a buck http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95 Appliance news, reviews, ratings, reports and buyers guides. Locate repairs and parts. for home and kitchen appliances. Sun, 05 Feb 2012 03:32:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: angry wife http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95/comment-page-1#comment-54871 angry wife Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:28:37 +0000 http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck/#comment-54871 Here's what I can answer of your questions, Foiled... The oven had not been used since the burned foil incident and I did the ketchup thing on a cool oven. I used a 1/4 inch thick layer of ketchup. Some of the foil was pretty thick, other parts were thin. It's hard to measure the depth of the burned foil. After checking my project every 3-4 days for a couple of weeks I got tired of it and cleaned up the ketchup. Not all of the foil came off but it's better than it was. Mine is a double oven so I still had the lower oven to use while the upper one was being treated. This would be a pain for anyone with a single oven. Well, that concludes my experiment. I guess I could say it sort of worked. Good luck with yours and let me know if you find a solution!! Here’s what I can answer of your questions, Foiled… The oven had not been used since the burned foil incident and I did the ketchup thing on a cool oven. I used a 1/4 inch thick layer of ketchup. Some of the foil was pretty thick, other parts were thin. It’s hard to measure the depth of the burned foil. After checking my project every 3-4 days for a couple of weeks I got tired of it and cleaned up the ketchup. Not all of the foil came off but it’s better than it was. Mine is a double oven so I still had the lower oven to use while the upper one was being treated. This would be a pain for anyone with a single oven. Well, that concludes my experiment. I guess I could say it sort of worked. Good luck with yours and let me know if you find a solution!!

]]> By: foiled http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95/comment-page-1#comment-54702 foiled Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:13:22 +0000 http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck/#comment-54702 A few questions to 'angry wife': --how burned on was the foil and how thick, and had it been reheated prior to your ketchup/steel experiment? --how much ketchup and how long did it sit (4 days?)? --has it all now come off? Really, I think that all manufacturers of self-clean/hidden element ovens should have a warning right inside the oven where you'd see it prior to laying down foil!! A few questions to ‘angry wife’:

–how burned on was the foil and how thick, and had it been reheated prior to your ketchup/steel experiment?

–how much ketchup and how long did it sit (4 days?)?

–has it all now come off?

Really, I think that all manufacturers of self-clean/hidden element ovens should have a warning right inside the oven where you’d see it prior to laying down foil!!

]]> By: angry wife http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95/comment-page-1#comment-54292 angry wife Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:29:48 +0000 http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck/#comment-54292 I doubt heating the oven would make a difference other than to dry out the ketchup. I do wonder, however, if the heat friction would speed the transfer of electrons. I doubt heating the oven would make a difference other than to dry out the ketchup. I do wonder, however, if the heat friction would speed the transfer of electrons.

]]> By: Needinghelp http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95/comment-page-1#comment-54236 Needinghelp Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:48:09 +0000 http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck/#comment-54236 Did you have to heat the oven when applying the tomato sauce and stainless steel or was it a cold oven? If heated, what is a good temperature. Did you have to heat the oven when applying the tomato sauce and stainless steel or was it a cold oven? If heated, what is a good temperature.

]]> By: WorkinMan http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95/comment-page-1#comment-54222 WorkinMan Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:04:03 +0000 http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck/#comment-54222 I love the homestyle science. You've made your own acid battery. By having the two metals connected by the acid your moving electrons and then atoms from one to the other. Its a similar process to the one used to silver plate spoons. You are in effect "aluminum plating" your cooking pot. Brilliant. Thanks for coming back and telling us about it. I love the homestyle science. You’ve made your own acid battery. By having the two metals connected by the acid your moving electrons and then atoms from one to the other. Its a similar process to the one used to silver plate spoons. You are in effect “aluminum plating” your cooking pot. Brilliant. Thanks for coming back and telling us about it.

]]> By: angry wife http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95/comment-page-1#comment-54203 angry wife Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:12:58 +0000 http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck/#comment-54203 Here's an update on my ketchup & steel pan hypothesis: It seems to be working! I checked it yesterday and the part which was covered with ketchup and steel has disappeared without a trace. The rest wasn't covered so I'm going to treat that area next. It has, however, taken longer than a couple of days to see the results. As far as the electronics, they're fine. Here’s an update on my ketchup & steel pan hypothesis: It seems to be working! I checked it yesterday and the part which was covered with ketchup and steel has disappeared without a trace. The rest wasn’t covered so I’m going to treat that area next. It has, however, taken longer than a couple of days to see the results. As far as the electronics, they’re fine.

]]> By: angry wife http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95/comment-page-1#comment-54062 angry wife Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:01:52 +0000 http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck/#comment-54062 I have owned my electric double-oven for less than six months and am now faced with a melted aluminum foil debacle because of one fateful night when I allowed my husband to cook pizza without my supervision. It appears to me that scrubbing or sanding isn't a good idea because my husband obviously tried it and now my oven is missing a bit of enamel on the floor. Once the enamel lifts it seems to come off quite readily which isn't good at all. The only likely fix I can imagine would be to melt off the aluminum. Many other websites have suggested the self-cleaning function with future posts stating it didn't work so I think a chemical burn-off would be more appropriate. Salt (sodium chloride), vinegar, citric acid, and tomato paste have all been reported to pit aluminum but not dissolve it. Then I found an interesting comment...someone had covered a lasagne with foil and the tomato sauce had eaten through it! The reaction was explained further, saying it happened because the food was in a metal pan of different composition (probably stainless steel). The acid in the tomato sauce conducted electricity between the two metals facilitating the transfer of atoms away from the foil to the less reactive metal (steel), causing the foil to dissolve (over a period of a couple of days). So here's my question: If I put ketchup or tomato sauce on the burned foil and cover it with a steel mixing bowl, will the electrical energy be enough to threaten the electronic components of my oven? I have owned my electric double-oven for less than six months and am now faced with a melted aluminum foil debacle because of one fateful night when I allowed my husband to cook pizza without my supervision. It appears to me that scrubbing or sanding isn’t a good idea because my husband obviously tried it and now my oven is missing a bit of enamel on the floor. Once the enamel lifts it seems to come off quite readily which isn’t good at all. The only likely fix I can imagine would be to melt off the aluminum. Many other websites have suggested the self-cleaning function with future posts stating it didn’t work so I think a chemical burn-off would be more appropriate. Salt (sodium chloride), vinegar, citric acid, and tomato paste have all been reported to pit aluminum but not dissolve it. Then I found an interesting comment…someone had covered a lasagne with foil and the tomato sauce had eaten through it! The reaction was explained further, saying it happened because the food was in a metal pan of different composition (probably stainless steel). The acid in the tomato sauce conducted electricity between the two metals facilitating the transfer of atoms away from the foil to the less reactive metal (steel), causing the foil to dissolve (over a period of a couple of days). So here’s my question: If I put ketchup or tomato sauce on the burned foil and cover it with a steel mixing bowl, will the electrical energy be enough to threaten the electronic components of my oven?

]]> By: The Home Smithy http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95/comment-page-1#comment-53372 The Home Smithy Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:21:58 +0000 http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck/#comment-53372 Sorry that url should read http://justanswer.com Sorry that url should read http://justanswer.com

]]> By: The Home Smithy http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95/comment-page-1#comment-53371 The Home Smithy Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:19:32 +0000 http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck/#comment-53371 The best solution is to carefully peel off what you can useing a single edged razor to lift the edges with. Once you get off as much as you can (this is a very tedious job and isnt a 15 minuet fix)you can then use some 900 grit wet and dry sand paper to begin to sand off the biggere oieces. Once you have it mostly off go to 1000 grit wet and dry sanding paper. Avoid sanding anywhere that doesnt have foil on it. Take your time and always keep the surface and the sanding paper wet. Wet is good. Dry ruins. Hope this helps. Best regards, THS For answers to your questions from a live expert please go to http://justanswrer.com Experts are waiting to answer your question in live time. The best solution is to carefully peel off what you can useing a single edged razor to lift the edges with. Once you get off as much as you can (this is a very tedious job and isnt a 15 minuet fix)you can then use some 900 grit wet and dry sand paper to begin to sand off the biggere oieces. Once you have it mostly off go to 1000 grit wet and dry sanding paper. Avoid sanding anywhere that doesnt have foil on it. Take your time and always keep the surface and the sanding paper wet. Wet is good. Dry ruins.
Hope this helps.
Best regards, THS
For answers to your questions from a live expert please go to http://justanswrer.com Experts are waiting to answer your question in live time.

]]> By: pam http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95/comment-page-1#comment-47315 pam Thu, 01 May 2008 21:19:59 +0000 http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck/#comment-47315 I DID THE SAME THING!!!! I'd always done it with my other ovens, but my new one, maybe it's because it's newer and gets hotter faster or it's also a convenction, I don't know, but I put aluminum foil on the bottom, used it ONCE, and it's stuck on there. A friend suggested putting ketchup on it and leaving it overnight, so that's what I'm trying but if you have any other hints.... Pam I DID THE SAME THING!!!!

I’d always done it with my other ovens, but my new
one, maybe it’s because it’s newer and gets hotter
faster or it’s also a convenction, I don’t know, but I
put aluminum foil on the bottom, used it ONCE, and it’s
stuck on there. A friend suggested putting ketchup on
it and leaving it overnight, so that’s what I’m trying
but if you have any other hints….

Pam

]]> By: Diane http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck-95/comment-page-1#comment-46155 Diane Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:38:03 +0000 http://www.appliance.net/2007/how-to-ruin-your-electric-wall-oven-for-under-a-buck/#comment-46155 How do I get burned foil on the bottom of my oven off How do I get burned foil on the bottom of my oven off

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